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Level? we talked about louisiana earlier. what's going on there? >> the states have been leading the way on this issue for quite some time. for many state, states that people don't think of as involved in prison reform, texas, my home state of north carolina, and others have looked at this issue for years and looked at a primarily from an economic point of view. they focus on the human cost and moral issues, but states quickly realize the cost of prison, which has risen 600% was something they could not sustain. and by making smaller investments in prevention programs and in reentry programs a...

You are cherished and respected by the american people more than you'll ever ever know. so true. more than you'll ever know. when i took office two years ago, one of my highest priorities was to reduce violent crime. in the two years before my inauguration, violent crime was up substantially, very substantially. and murders had increased by more than 20%. for this reason, my administration resurrected project safe neighborhoods, bringing together citizens groups, sheriffs and police department's to put offenders behind bars while supporting crime prevention and reentry programs. part of the re...

Inmates. >> will democrats continue to play politics and miss the opportunity to pass common sense legislation. joe borelli. how necessary is it? >> it doesn't help anyone incarcerated in this country. when you are sentencing someone to a lifetime of dependency without prospect of any future employment it doesn't benefit us at all. most people into the prison system and come out. when talking about reentry programs that is priority number one. >> they are facing an opioid epidemic in this country. we have a huge drug problem and the president saying he wants softer penalties on drug felonies h...

Brian senator grassley is working with senator durbin and pushing to do some kind of criminal justice reform, a couple of items, rehab in prison, shorter sentences for nonviolent criminals, are you for looking at the criminal justice system? >> i think there's always an opportunity to improve. certainly i'm for reentry programs where you prepare prisoner that go back to workforce. i'm not for shorter prison sentences and that minor offenses are less serious offenses, that's all in the mind of the beholder, i can tell you a minor offender is a major offender on the next event. don't buy into th...

One party is in charge, the other party doesn't want to give them credit. but that looked overwhelmingly childish to me. what did you think? >> it really did, neil. let me say first, i pray there's one thing that we can all agree on, prayers for the victims and the family of the train wreck and let's pray for that. but it was very childish for 13 to not attend and for some of those that did attend to sit on their hands. i'm wondering if they were afraid they would hear something good and they would have to acknowledge it so they didn't come. the ones that did attend, how could you listen to lo...