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Meetings went. we have just the person to ask. joining us now is a member of the progressive caucus who attended the last of the meetings today with president biden, california democratic congresswoman barbara lee. congresswoman lee, it's always a real pleasure to have you here. thank you for making time. >> thank you, rachel. i'm really happy to be here with you again. >> so there is a reflexive thing in the beltway media which is when you have nothing else to write, just write democrats in disarray and hope that the facts follow. and you can present some -- present whatever is going on in th...

Reached out and said this is bad and this is not how it works and the way he described this was the white house was in a political situation where they couldn't fire rob porter because they needed rob porter and so they essentially ignored it. that's the way he framed it to me. and that is the broad concern that people should have. >> and it should be noted real quickly that they once again blame career officials when confronted the facts they have laid out. >> there is a -- yes, that is a reflexive thing they tend to do. but this is -- this is just a unmitigated -- there is a r-- a lot of lie...

Although it's just been 24 hours, the shock value of the president's statement aimed supposedly for the chinese more than the north koreans, and yet it has rattled teacups from coast to coast in this country that i can't remember being rattled as much. >> it's just very puzzling i think. i think people are immediately and i think this is sort of reflexive thing in this day and age they go right to sort of trying to read tea leafs. the second tea analogy in about two minutes, what does it mean and also you think of the internal dynamics of the white house and you do wonder how calculated was th...

Tax cuts, but they don't, i think, like this kind. they're not going to like this kind, because there are maybe 5,000 people a year, at most, who can conceivably benefit frit. these are people who have, if they're married, have more than $10 million worth of assets to pass on in their estate. nobody's going to be sympathetic with them. and john may disagree, but i think the republicans are kind of, this is kind of like a reflexive thing. this is like you take, in the movie 2001, you take almost all the memory chips out and the only one left is the one that says, we've got to cut taxes, we don'...

Money as compared to everyone else. number two, americans do like tax cuts, but they don't i think, like this kind. they're not going to like this kind, because there are maybe 5,000 people a year at most who can conceivably benefit frit. these are people who have if they're married, have more than $10 million worth of assets to pass on in their estate. nobody's going to be sympathetic with them. and john may disagree but i think the republicans are kind of, this is kind of like a reflexive thing. this is like you take, in the movie 2001, you take almost all the memory chips out and the only o...