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Ivanka trump is dissolving her fashion brand. and she said when we started this brand no one could predict the success that we could achieve. after 17 months in washington i don't know when or if i will ever return to the business but i know that the work in the foreseeable future is my work here in washington, and so ma making this ke decision now is the only fair outcome for my team and my partners. my colleague stephanie ruhle joins me in the studio. and so there is a lot of criticism for ivanka and the brand and especially because donald trump is promoting made in america, and made in amer...

Suddenly now an issue? >> i am with you there, but when people make the argument that the brand is not selling and that is why it is not happen in, but it is selling in other parts of the country, and internationally, it has grown. and do we know exactly what the numbers are inside of the company, we don't know, and we will never know. the timing around this could be that she feels like she has had some positive traction in washington, and she feels like she is the person doing the work for development, and initiatives working for e kconomy and paid family leave and she may be saying, i am all...

Outside, and what does it mean for those inside that might agree with the president on the insooide of the administrations and want to get the disagreement to him to effect better policy? >> well, first of all, it has a chilling effect. if i could step back, what rand paul infuriates me, because basically by definition, if they have a security clearance the u.s. government has a said that they are trustworthy, and yes, of course, they are people that we turn up the spieses once in a while, and people who turn out to be not trustworthy, but by and large, there is a thorough clearance process by...

Mimi is also an msnbc analyst, and is this some sort of signal from rudy giuliani that they are worried about obstruction and solutio -- collusion? >> well, they may be worried about that area, but there were some pieces that giuliani was arguing that the prosecutor c cannot charge him with obstruction, but it is an artificial line, because you can't say that we will stay away from questions on obstruction when the facts on both overlap so much. so even if mueller were inclined to agree to such a thing, i don't see how it could plausibly work, because the firing of james comey for example or t...

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