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You just going down the same path you went down with health care? >> i guess you don't know until you don't know. i hope we're not going down the same path. i think there is an opportunity to do things in a bipartisan way. it's not -- tax reform is not as ideological as health care. let's go with tax reform first. i think we have an opportunity to marry that together with infrastructure so you look at democrats and republicans who love infrastructure. you marry that together if possible with tax reform in one big reform package. again, we don't know until we begin this process, but i hope we c...

Perception that this looked like it could have been orchestrated by the white house. devin nunes going there and then briefing the president. are they going to be able wipe that away? >> it looks like lee kokeystone and nunes would need to have been let in to where he could access the information he needed. and if it was made public that he went to the white house to get information that the white house should have in order to brief the president on the information that he has, and you couple that with the fact that paul ryan couldn't get 218 votes, which isn't surprising because the reform pa...

Republicans and make sure donald trump saves his majorities in congress in the senate and the house, but sean spicer's threat, as gloria mentioned, that people, republicans would be at risk of losing their seats if they were to vote against this bill i think is less of a threat, really, than just common sense from the white house perspective. as they've been telling republicans, the point they've been making is that republicans have been running on this for years and the thought of them actually voting against now the best reform package that house leaders in the white house can produce is kin...

When the cbo told us how many people obama care would cover. today there would be 22 million changes. the cbo has not a good record on those predictions. what was big today and what your conversation so far has missed completely. is the cbo just scored this plan, the trump paul ryan obama care repeal and beginning of reform, they scored this as deficit -- as decreasing the deficit. and that means that it can be passed with 51 votes in the senate. the only thing the cbo score, in the whole thing, the only numbers that matter are 1.2 trillion in spending over a decade. that means, that this refo...

Income tax will pay less federal income tax, therefore, getting bigger paycheck because we understand we haven't gotten details yet we understand this new reform package brings in just three tax rates for individuals. 12%, 25%, 33%. i can't confirm that i have not seen the details yet but it will be around that level. all three rates are lower than the rates you are currently paying. you will get a boost in your wallet. now, the obvious question is when do you get that boost in your wallet? steve: that's right. retroactive? >> that depends on a lot of things. do we get the bill signed, sealed,...