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Talks? >> well, first of all, let me just acknowledge that over 200 days ago, the house of representatives did pass the george floyd justice in policing bill, and i think that senator booker and i were very optimistic because senator scott seemed as though he really wanted to see reform take place. and actually because of the filibuster that your guest was just talking about, we needed those ten republican votes. and it just seemed as though senator scott had a very difficult time getting to yes. i also think that there were interference from some of the national police organizations, the frat...

Police reform unconscionable. joining me to discuss is democratic congresswoman karen bass who was a key negotiator on policing reform. thank you for joining us, congresswoman. i appreciate it. good evening. a lot of optimism that we would get meaningful policing reform or police reform, even though it was never going to be easy to get the 60 votes in the senate. so what brought down these talks? >> well, first of all, let me just acknowledge that over 200 days ago, the house of representatives did pass the george floyd justice in policing bill, and i think that senator booker and i were very ...

Your views on that conversation, as that is bound to ensue here in the days to come. >> caller: well, i mean, certainly, as we look at criminal justice reform in that state and across this country, some concern is certainly being brought up by local law enforcement in these communities who have to seek justice for those who may be committing these crimes. it is, can be a double-edged sword. certainly, we want to see reform take place in this country, but at the same time, we have to be absolutely certain and sure those who may be a real danger or threat to this community are not released back ...

Local law enforcement in these communities who have to seek justice for those who are committing these crimes. it can be a double-edged sword. certainly we want to see reform take place in this country. but at the same time, we have to be absolutely certain and sure those who are a real danger to this community are not released back to the community. that's what you will hear a lot from law enforcement. in the state there and across the country. and it's also a certain for the entire judicial system. you also have some judges who have some very strong concerns as it relates to criminal justice...

Is what lacks in the obamacare replacement fight. the president was not up to speed on the issues around the bill, didn't seem to understand what that bill would do. to blame john mccain or any individual senator for that bill not passing really doesn't acknowledge what the president failed to do, which is to lead on that piece of legislation. >> as a former aide to chuck schumer i would expect you to have criticisms of republicans in congress. the issue was we were one vote away from having the beginning of that reform take place and is a that the president didn't engage congress in the proce...