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Physical death possibly, a loss of life, and a response should be proportionate. in other words, under international principles, law after war, if a cyberattacks causes large-scale destruction, we can respond in a proportionate way, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a cyberattack. >> you have to prepare for any eventuality, any terrible incident in the united states, including potentially a biological or chemical attack. talk to us about what that would look like if russia were to go down that route in ukraine, how devastating it would be and what would be an appropriate response? >> well,...

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2007, 2008, he keeps talking about nuclear weapons. he keeps talking about world war iii. people keep talking about world war iii and nuclear weapons. this would be -- the alarms are all going off. they're talking about the use of nuclear weapons in a way no leader has for the past 30, 40 years. this isn't really a hypothetical question, is it? >> no doubt, joe, that the rhetoric that we're hearing coming out of the kremlin is concerning. no doubt about that. it's not helpful to international security to have him even talk about this or broach this. for instance, accusing the ukrainians of con...

About long-term needs, and how can people thousands of miles away help? i'll talk to the head of a refugee resettlement agency here in the united states and get the latest as well from the polish border next. he latest as well from the polish border next. >> translator: in my heart it's painful. i miss ukraine already. i just want to cry. ukraine alry i just want to cry it's still the eat fresh refresh, and subway's refreshing their italians. so, we're taking this to italy. refresh. because subway now has italian-style capicola on the new mozza meat and supreme meats. love the smell of italian...

First of all. why -- you said earlier that -- you talked about how the russian forces are stalled. why do you not call this at this point a war of attrition? why is it that the russian forces are stalled? >> look, i think first of all we're going to sort of shy away of putting labels on this and bumper stickers on it. clearly, this is an active, dynamic fight and as president zelenskyy put it, the fight of their survival. we respect that. i would say a couple of reasons. the russians have suffered missteps of their own. they did not plan properly for logistics and sustainment. they're running ...