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The u.s. is talking about putting more troops into europe. nato is reenergized. when president trump was there he was talking about killing off nato and now realizes why it's doing what it's doing and he's created a ukraine that's going to be more western oriented and anti-russia so so, you know, i think if he sits back and realizes what's happening, he's essentially working against his own interests here. but he has -- he has wanted to humiliate the united states ever since the fall of the soviet union when he believed the united states took advantage of russia. it's not true but that's the n...

Overtly that they're positioning themselves to respond militarily. >> this will be the largest military operation in europe since the end of the cold war. perhaps even since world war ii, assuming the russians mass a major ground, air and sea operation to crush the ukrainian military and destabilize the government. i think if we're talking about russian missile and air strikes, precise or not against ukrainian military units and civilians, you are talking thousands of casualties and 50,000 perhaps. tremendous loss on the battlefield for the ukrainian military and russian soldiers as well, assu...

Don't expect them to be careful with regard to civilian lives, even though they are there are slavic brethren in this instance. but what i'm afraid of, deeply afraid of, is that this will spread throughout europe we will have refugee flows, and i'm afraid that somehow vladimir putin will get involved in and started testing nato, and that's why it is good that they are meeting today. 50 it is good that they are meeting toda _ ,, ., ., it is good that they are meeting toda _ ., ., it is good that they are meeting toda . ., ., ,., it is good that they are meeting toda _ ., ., , ., “ it is good ...

That's what we have unfolding. we have a major build-up of russian forces on the boundary of nato and now there is a war that is going to have some consequences, both militarily and amongst the civilian population with regard to refugee flows. it would be irresponsible, it would be negligent to not activate the nato response force to provide additional zurt for the humanitarian issues but as well as warning off russia, casting an eye on it, with nato article 5. >> we mentioned poland. you wrote a piece about what more america could have done. there was a member of the ukrainian parliament on t...

Government. bring them to exile and worried about that piece of this. really the refugee flows. and making sure this doesn't spill over. >> we'll talk about the potential on the refugee flows in a minute. thank you so much for bringing up that point and thank you, evelyn and courtney and andrea. i appreciate you being with us. we have news on capitol hill. house speaker nancy pelosi announcing a briefing from the biden administration briefing. i want to bring in senior correspondent garrett haake. the briefing process is not impossible but adds a layer of complexity to that. >> reporter: with ...