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A significant vetting process more likely that a syrian terrorist could get here through a student visa or visitor's visa that's how the 19 terrorists who engaged in the 9/11 attacks got here. none of them were refugees. none came through the refugee process. >> he makes a great point if he would worried about the 2,000s or so refugees come over in the last year maybe we should be worried how many countless came across our southern border and. >> every one of these ways into the country need to have more scrutiny. i'm not saying we should keep all these people out, that's wrong. we should allo...

Interview. in addition, there is this report that one of the eight terrorists who struck here in paris six days ago got into this it country by embedding himself with syrian refugees. what can be done to make sure that does not happen in the united states? >> well, had this is comparing apples to oranges. because the process in europe is completely different than the process in the united states. in the united states it takes an average of 18 to 24 months for any refugee to come and be properly vetted and that refugee will not enter the country until they have been vetted. that's entirely diff...

Let discuss with rick francona, juliette and bob bair. good to have all of you on to speak about this. juliet to you first, it shows that 53% of americans say that we should not continue the program to settle up to 10,000 syrian refugees. should we stop this program? >> no, we should no. i think it's incumbent on those of us who believe it's is right thing to do not just morally and ethically but there are security reasons for continuing the program. i need to explain how rigorous it is. the long -- the long runway it takes for any single syrian refugee to get here, the bio metric testing, the...

Permanently, living there? >> to the united states or different countries who have committed to take a certain number of refugees. >> and the president had previously committed to 10,000 next wreyear. how do you make sure there's adequate screenings? to voice the concerns of governors who are saying, how can we be sure there isn't one person in there who is a terrorist? >> first of all, there is a screening during the determination of the refugee process. and for the resettlement program, there is another screening. not only countries that are -- countries accepting refugees are doing their ow...

Refugees. the u.s. leadership had been moving in the direction of letting in more. you see what happened here and the investigative findings about at least one, if not more, had been infiltrating through the refugee process. what do you think is the right balance, sir? >> there are people on my side of the aisle who say if you stop the refugees from coming to america, that fixes the problem. there's about 20 different ways to get to america. refugees are just one of 20 lanes. shutting that lane down does not protect us. anybody coming to america needs to be vetted and vetted well. we can't shu...