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Some of the events that played out, pete, in their day. but what -- as far as his wife being able to get into the country, his fiancee, under this visa you know the conversation that's existed regarding refugees, syrian and iraqi, and many people have said that some of these soft spots, if you will, in allowing people in our country is not the refugee programs but the visa programs, and a conversation we had after 9/11 as well. >> right. well, of course, the refugee question, those people that are coming here as refugees have to go through an entirely different process. this is not that kind o...

Allow them to free flow in the country. n? paris, there was a lot of things in the refugee programs. and if you are a french national, you can come in fairly easily. and does it seem from what you are hearing, and coming toward us, this will impact to make be america more safe? >> many of these individuals from paris travelled to syria and come back to france and were trying to get to other places. yes, it would catch that situation. but youxd will not get all of them. and you need to know how to catch them. we've encouraged the administration especially for the refugees to not accept them bec...

Way to afghanistan, pakistan, and then work closely with our nato allies with what appears to be a command and control structure that isis created successfully in europe. >> congresswoman said the u.s. needs to temporarily suspend the visa waiver program between the u.s. and europe that allows europeans just to come into this country without applying for visas. given the attackers, the terrorists were largely europeans not refugees does that make more sense in some ways than what the house passed limiting or blocking really syrian refugees? >> well, what the house passed is definitely needed. ...

Make sense? >> well, what the house passed is definitely needed. from the information i see and if i was in the shoes of isis or al qaeda, i would definitely try to get people into these types of refugee programs. the house legislation is needed. i agree there needs to be a longer look at what needs to happen in the long run with the visa waiver program and who is allowed to get into the united states. that's going take more time. but in the short term we can put in so that the fbi and other intelligence agencies would have to clear who gets into this country. i think it's a very small ask and...

Ref uuge refugees. very few that have come through the refugee resettlement program, out of 785,000 since 2011, only 10 or less have been arrested for terrorist plots. none have actually carried out terrorist plots. there are much easier ways for terrorists to get here, like the visa waver program, and none of the 19 came as refugees. the politicians who are talking about this should not only look at the statistics, they have to look at other things that benefit the united states from these refugee programs programs. they support people who support democracy abroad. think of the protesters in ...