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Themselves to be lbgtq free zones. let me bring in erin morris, executive director of immigration quality. thank you for being with us. i understand you've actually been able to talk to some people in ukraine. what are they telling you? >> well, thank you for having me. you know, i think, like a lot of refugees currently contemplating whether or not to leave ukraine, it's a really difficult decision. and for queer people in particular, leaving can have a lot of danger involved. and so a woman i spoke to yesterday was really concerned that her partner, that they have no legal relationship with ...

In ukraine. about 2.2 million are estimated to be in poland, which is also why it was significant for biden to choose poland where he is visiting today. but certainly you've seen more focus from the administration on the humanitarian side of this conflict. the question is, can they actually accept as many refugees as they say they will? >> let's remember, humanitarian parole, while it's an expedited process, also not perfect. humanitarian parole is what the administration also used to evacuate afghans as well when kabul fell. right now you have -- they used that for 75,000 afghans, and that --...

They're going to take in up to 100,000 refugees from ukraine doesn't mean that that's actually the number that's going to come to the united states. if you look, for this year, they were targeting 125,000 refugees worldwide and right now they're estimating just about 16,000 coming in. so this is all a tricky balance for the white house to play as they're trying to show that they are willing to accept these refugees. but really it's just a drop in the bucket also if you look at how many people are flowing out of ukraine into countries like poland that's gotten about 2 million refugees so far. >...

I think that this moment, even going back to last summer in terms of the evacuation, it shows americans are so much better than our current refugee system. i think with the president announced the other day in terms of welcoming 100,000 ukrainians as refugees into the u.s. was a great first step, but really, the u.s., the european union need to come together and look at our refugee resettlement settling at large. and the moments to come. if someone is coming from afghanistan, syria, or anyone else, we have a moral responsibility to care for these people fleeing war. >> i think also when you lo...

Ukraine. with the united nations now estimating 1 in 10 ukrainians have now left their homes there. that's more than 4 million refugees. and the u.s. is going to let up to 100,000 of those refugees into this country. an open door that many are welcoming but some say bureaucratic red tape makes coming here a whole lot harder than hopping on a plane. nbc news correspondent josh lederman, who is in warsaw for us, sees that. you are hearing those stories, josh, firsthand as these people are trying to find a new home away from the war, right? talk to us about what you saw. >> reporter: well, hallie...