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The president is claiming a tremendous victory after this supreme court upheld his travel ban. he originally called for a total ban of muslims entering the country during the campaign. it later morphed into what he called a watered down and politically correct version. he is still celebrating because it still feeds the us versus them culture war that he relished. is it a win for you? let's ask it for the chairman of the senate homeland security. ron johnson. thank you for coming on the show. >> how are you doing? >> the travel ban, you had said that you saw this as a reasonable accommodation f...

But i do think the direction they're leading into is the direction we should be pursuing. >> and a lot of people think that canada may be a milder more polite version of the u.s., what are you learning about canadians that makes it more distinctive from our culture? >> there's more diversity and more people that help strengthen the society. whereas in america, we pay a lot of lip service to that, but it's not embedded in our policies. a lot of people who are pursuing refugee status in this country have moved up to canada and actually are overwhelming canadian refugee system because they think ...

Country of origin. he is accepting asylum seekers true refugees and he said france is still open for refugees, whereas economic migrants, he is trying to discourage from coming to france. that's something that we can learn as well. it's something we should be learning. president trump has not made that distinction in his a policy thus far. >> mark: everyone knows that the refugee system and that status of a genuine fear of persecution is abused routinely in the immigration systems of the west. france is -- if you go to paris, for example, and you can go a couple of blocks from the best hotels,...

Said france is still open for refugees whereas economic migrants is he trying to discourage from coming to france. that's something that we can learn as well. it's something we should be cooking. president trump has nod made that distinction in his policy thus far. >> mark: everyone knows that the refugee system and that status of a genuine fear of persecution is accused routinely in the immigration systems of the west. france is -- if you go to paris, for example. and you can go a couple of blocks from the best hotels, and you would think you were in a country, in a city that has fallen apart...

Different thing. these weren't refugees, these were people coming in on different kinds of visas. the refugee system is actually incredibly rigorous. it takes two years. there is, like, a 20-step process that refugees have to go through. and the overwhelming majority of refugees are desperate people, many of them women and children, many have fought with or served as translators for our troops on the battlefield and are living in a enormous danger and some of these countries. so, no, i don't think the pause makes sense. >> shannon: what do you make of the fbi's announcement that 1,000 domestic...