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Post." >> absolutely. phil is absolutely right. the president has every -- had every opportunity to understand what was going on here. and i think what's been more startling than anything from my perspective, and i talk to people in the national security space, and my former colleagues in the intelligence community. the president has not demonstrated a level of curiosity about this. the president's most important job is making sure that he can protect this country and defend this country, and that he's on top of our national security issues. without asking about these issues, without looking i...

Obstruction of justice, a means -- he won the election fair and square, but you can still win fair and square and have had russian collusion. we learned from director comey that he never discussed this from the president, never asked him about details or for a br f briefing, and jeff sessions as well never had a briefing with the president about this. >> yeah, i think when you look at what the administration is saying, a lot of it has to do with the allegations of collusion. and that's, i think, not really the issue ultimately. eventually it will become clear. but the point right now is that i...

Collusion between the campaign and russia, which he is very concerned about and denies. as a member of the house intelligence committee, do you think the president should spend more time making sure u.s. elections are never hacked again and less time trying to refute any collusion? >> well, as a member of the house intelligence committee, i'm involved in this investigation. the most important thing is the investigation is bipartisan and thorough. yes, we should all be concerned with the russian attempt to influence our elections. this is something -- an attack on the dnc is an attack on all of...

Election and the prior administration, but not much about what this administration plans to do or is doing about the next cyber attack. i spoke about it earlier with republican congressman will hurd, a member of the house intelligence and homeland security committees, also a former cia officer. congressman hurd, president trump has spent a lot of time focused on russia. the vast majority seems at least publicly to be refuting collusion between the campaign and russia, which he is very concerned about and denies. as a member of the house intelligence committee, do you think the president should...

This. >> to shawn's point, you know, if the president is actually interested in russian interference, because clearly this is so wrapped up in the allegations of collusion, the allegations of obstruction of justice, that the president takes this personally, that this is somehow, you know -- he's said this in the past -- a means of making his election invalid, which it is not. he won fair and square. but you can still win fair and square and still have had russian collusion. we learned from director comey that he never discussed this with the president, never asked him about details or for a br...