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Because once we put that pressure on -- for instance, kim jong-un keeps loyalty by giving gifts to senior regime elements. if he doesn't have the money for those gifts, katy, he's very well out, and he knows that. it's important for us to keep that pressure up. until they make the commitments that are necessary. >> they also -- pompeo was also saying they want to convince north korea that they are actually safer without their nuclear weapons. i've always been told by experts about the region, experts on the region, including you, that north korea looks to libya, they look to iran, and they say...

Russia is there, the regime is much more ensconced and strengthened now than it had been a few years ago. so we're not bargaining from a great position here. >> but do you think the u.s., then, will be in syria for the long-term as well? >> well, i think we're going to be there for the foreseeable future. i don't think we'll ever be there in big numbers, and certainly not in a direct combat role, but we're certainly supporting our friends and allies protecting them from these hostile regime elements who are quite vicious. >> on the same day a president decided to launch those missiles in syria...

Effect because we know that the chinese are saying office number 39, kim jong-un's personal slush fund is running out of money. and the south koreans are saying that north korean may not have any foreign exchange reserves by october. i don't know if that's actually going to be true, but the point is that kim, if he doesn't have money, can't launch missiles, can't detonate nukes, and can't engage in gift politics, the buying of loyal of senior regime elements. and kim wants to talk to trump and that means we've got to be doing something right. david: commander, one thing we haven't been doing f...

A lot, but not helping us enough. what's your reaction to that? >> i think that the president is right that china could solve this. china of course accountses for 92% of north korea's trade. it has been supplying equipment and components and equipment and all sorts of things for the nuclear weapons program. the most important thing is confidence to regime elements. if beijing snld it was no longer supporting the program, you would see one way or another this program within let's say six months. probably earlier. north korean officials realize they are there only because china lets them be ther...

Beijing, said china would come to north korea's aid if the united states were to strike north korea first. and so this could be not just the united states versus north korea, this could be the united states versus north korea, china, and maybe even russia. >> before we were on you talked about the insecurity of kim jong-un. most of us in the united states, you watch people marching past him, regimental goose-stepping, people around him laughing in sen chronicity, we think this guy owns that place. is he that strong? >> i don't think so. the reason is, for instance, he's killed about 160 senior...