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Conclusion that he was in danger of having the whole regime implode economically. on the other hand, his father and his grandfather and he have spent three generations, enormous, huge slave labor camps , tremendous amounts of pain building nuclear weapons and missiles so the question becomes for him, can i cut a deal which enables me to survivor if i sell out everything we've been trying to do, do i get deposed by all these people who spent their lifetime doing it and if i don't do it, do i end up with my economy collapsing totally. maria: so he's afraid? >> i think he's coming in out of fear....

His regime starts to buckle, is probably the best way to deal with the weapons problem is to have kim's regime implode as we don't need to use the military option. >> harris: is talk about incivility for a second. i have wondered, i think this is where we are going. i wonder why did we don't just pull out the rug from under china right now. what are we waiting for? is it because it would cause instability in the region, not just for north korea or what is the reason? >> trish: is economic. i've asked this question to so many guests on the show, they keep telling me we can't afford it. we have ...

>> it's very clear. it's very clear. it's a very clear declare tri policy which benefits us to understand. there's a lot of communications going on between us and china, here in washington, in beijing other places. there's a lot of talk going on because this involves both of us. i think we knew that. this is nothing really new. they are allies. they are troubled -- they have a troubled alliance i would say but north korea remember 1950, who backed north korea when they invaded the south, it was china which changed the course of the war. china will back them. they have different interests on th...

Will? >> reporter: well, certainly publicly chinese officials don't seem to be fazed by the comments president trump made over the weekend. the ministry of foreign affairs put out a statement saying there was a conversation between china's top diplomat and rex tillerson. it was a pleasantly worded statement saying they're looking forward to this very important meeting between president trump and president xi. look, this is not the first u.s. administration that has tried to put pressure on china to solve the north korea problem. the bush administration tried it as well back in the mid 2000s af...