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Michael in the washington free beacon, we don't have a north korea problem, we have a china problem. north korea is a wild dog, china holds the leash, the change north korea's behavior change chinese behavior first. what do you make of that? >> well, i think we do have a north korean problem and, i mean, we also have a china challenge as well. that really what this region is about. it's hard enough to break the kim regime's grip, to separate him from nuclear weapons if it were just a bilateral challenge for us with us and north korea but we've got china and allies, south korea and japan and ru...

Around now. and that he's going to do whatever it takes to make june 12th in singapore some kind of success that can be marketed as a step forward. >> quick question to you. this issue of protections. can i play again what the president offered to kim jong-un today? >> we're willing to do a lot. and he's willing to, i think, do a lot also. i think we'll actually have a good relationship, assuming we have the meeting, assuming something comes of it. and he'll get protections that will be very strong. >> what's he talking about, phil, protections? >> regime security. will the family continue? on...

Deserve credit for the concessions we're seeing now? >> if we look at what was the rhetoric even just a few weeks ago, a few months ago, what we see now is a much, much calmers. we see room for optimism. and i think that there are a lot of actors who effectively are at the helm of their countries and basically they should be given some credit. south korea, china and the united states and of course north korea. i don't think anybody should not be given credit. the key thing is i think is to look at the motivations of each of those particular administrations and they all have if you like varying...

Some way to buy off regime elites who may be upset with him and that's what we're all sort of thinking. maybe the sanctions have worked and the north koreans are feeling the heat and looking for a way to relieve those because threatens regime security. >> if and when it comes to a u.s. summit with president trump, what might the u.s. offer a treaty to end the korean war? freezing war games on the border? then again china and russia want u.s. troops off the border. what would south korean officials who meet this week with the north think of any of those ideas? >> yeah, i think the -- first of a...

Wouldn't fly halfway around the world and take the risk of exposure if he didn't have an expectation he was going to meet with the guy and something was going to come of that meeting, correct? >> yes, absolutely. and i do think pompeo wanted to absolutely make sure and clarify certainly things because i think washington and pyongyang might have had very different expectation going into this potential trump/kim jong-un summit. even just concept of denuclearization, mr. trump tweeted that north korea is committed to denuclearization, but to north korea that used to mean very different thing. the...