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Neo liberalism to create some third phase that gets the best of them or just the things we learned in the new deal we need to relearn? >> most of the things we need to relearn. there were things that weren't necessary. the regulation cue that limited interest on savings accounts was probably too restrictive, and in some ways you can't go back. we're never going to go back that a bank is a building with a row of tellers. the world is too complicated. this is my home field, international capital movement, right, and where is the sign that free movement of international capital is productive anyw...

And since 1980 it's been one crisis after another. latin american debt crisis, savings and loan crisis, asian crisis and the big kahuna which is the crisis we're still dealing with. >> is there a way of conceiving of a solution to that that is not just going back to what we had during the new deal, or is that the solution? like is there some way to combine the insights of the policy revolutions of what happens to liberal lichl to create some sort of third phase that gets the most of them or the things we get in in the new deal we need to relearn? >> we did things that weren't necessary. we pro...