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Minister and put a guy, and actually the you're owe controversial because he said this is a german cage. france and germany are killing us. but they put him forward and the central guys rejected it. >> how will this come to america? why do you think. >> i think the tea party revolt of 2010 which saw 62 seats go in the house kind of petered out a little bit with the romney campaign and obama. what i -- i saw in the european elections in 2014 with nigel faraj, the reinvig ration of the -- reinvig ration of the populous movement. europe is base a year ahead of the united states. and i think you'r...

Doing. >> tucker: so they are basically running their own propaganda campaign purportedly designed to combat propaganda. what's the agenda behind this? i'm a little confused by. this. >> it's two fold. one is these are the people who have actually been obsessed with the idea that we should be at war with russia forever. back in 2008 when the president of georgia attacked two provinces, that view themselves as more aligned with russia and the russians went and confronted the georgian government about it, people like john mccain and marco rubio and that whole neocon crowd bill kristol were calli...

Considered themselves part of the political center want to be on the coat tails. then there's the genuine political sense that there's new hope and revig ration, so everybody was reaching for words like reinvig ration, moving forward together. and emanuel macron he's got his victory now and zero seats in the parliament as you were saying a few minutes ago. it's the easy part that's done. he's got a lot of work to do. . >> is it going to be business as usual. >> it opens up, what he's done is teach them that you can embrace the eu and it's not the death. i think that the media sometimes and i k...

Primary piece, often a narrowing, less radical sometimes a conservative effect in our politics at least from some other perspective can be problematic or troubling. >> the history has either been an agent of oppression or liberation liberation. it depends what kind of message you're getting. that's why i think the, there's a changing face in christianity in the united states and a result of black and latino religiousty. it's more contextized. no denominations has over 2% people of color and you wonder why there is a decline. they're not relevant at this point. >> do you think that, for example...