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Brunson. released t too good to be with you. >> i know that you share a kinship you have been personally connected. what about this good news as it continues to spread? . >> it has been a celebration with this nasty hurricane we still have many without power but this is a great day for america. it is a great day for the pastor brunson family. we have a good relationship with his daughter who just recently attended one of the meetings and i remember her sharing the one day her daddy could walk her down the aisle. that is a powerful statement and now that can happen it is a team effort and we wo...

Those e-mails before they came out? >> absolutely. >> he knew about them? >> yes. >> he knew what was coming out before wick ykileaks released t? >> yes. >> are you speculating? that, by and large, that's the most explosive allegation that you've made. and it's not even in the book. >> yes, there's some things that are involved in this investigation, the mueller investigation, that i was very careful not to put in the book. >> you do have proof? >> i can't even talk about the things that i talked with them. i can't talk about the things i've submitted to them. but i want you to know that i ful...

Success stories, no layoffs, counts jobs as of today but he left bain in 1999. so he is taking credit for jobs up to '99, after '99 and we are in 2011, willard, and he is not deducting any of the layoffs. i mean, so he is going to run as a job creator against a president that inherited the worst economy we have seen in generations and still, there were jobs every month made -- that were -- that were created in the private sector that this president can say every month, we created jobs? >> well, you know, i think romney's got a problem and his problem is his record. his record in the private se...

In need, that's why there are more people on food stamps, 46, 47 million americans on food stamps and you're going to go out there and make that a cross to bear? i don't understand how that a winning strategy. >> charles, he also did something very shrewd, he took a shot, two for one. because not only are we going to talk about the food stamps, i tell you do, put your children to work and take one of these union jobs because we don't need janitors making money, eliminate unions, put children to work, kill child labor laws, how do you like me now? >> see, here is is another point that has been ...

Speech he is gave around the country pushing the plan and all the fights in congress about it? okay, maybe you've been busy. but then how do you explain that you knew about the jobs plan after all? >> president obama's american jobs act, what do you think of it? >> well, his most recent incantation is a bit like his first versions which is a lot of money, a lot of political bluster, very little positive impact on the economy. >> let me get this straight. last night, you said there was no plan. so then what was the plan you were attacking in that clip i just played? willard, you are not being s...