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Management as possible between the engineers on the front lines and people up at the top. so that if you had a very good idea, it would surface quickly. but also if there were mistakes being made, they wanted those surfaced in realtime. mistakes, of course, could wind up in the death of the astronauts. and they had something called the triple nines, 99.99% reliability rate. that meant if 0.1% went wrong, 5,600 parts on the apollo spacecraft and saturn rocket could go wrong, where they had 5.6 million parts there. so they wanted to make sure that mistakes would surface quickly. you know, that f...

Name, apologies for that. and i saw something today, when the former commerce secretary, ron brown's plane crashed in croatia, they did no go on land, these are four of the most dependable. what do you say about four of them didn't go off? >> yes, this is very interesting, when the elts were developed in the '70s, the reliability rate was very low, only about 25% of the time did they go off. this has improved over time. the latest number we have is about an 80% activation rate. so there is a 20% factor that says they wouldn't go off. but all four? this is again one of the many strange elements...

Or action by a third party commandeering the aircraft and having the technical skill and knowledge to maneuver the airplane. the idea that a catastrophic event could have occurred seems less likely because the distance the airplane traveled. and the course changes as miles pointed out. 9 course changes that the airplane underwent. i don't see how a catastrophic event would have sent the airplane midway between malaysia and vietnam to the south indian ocean. >> right. see david soucie, it's fascinating this. because although we don't have a lot of facts, actually we're starting to get enough wh...