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Penalty relief permanent. these are things that go with any kind of a threshold that we hopefully could agree on. >> but you wouldn't take, for example, the only deal that was out there was the $250,000 or below, you would vote no? >> well, luke, i'm not going to make a commitment, because, you know, i don't know what else would be in it. i think we need to have some debt relief here. i think we need to address sequestration, and i think we need a reasonable amount that would still not have tax increases. i mean, i'd be for no one having a tax increase, but i know that i'm not in the majority ...

America what their priorities were. we held a series of field hearings across the country where the grass roots commissioners allowed the american people to say what their priorities were. jon: all right what you came up with, the results and i'm going to kind of gloss over them, but part of what those suggestions, some of the fruit they brought involves balancing the budget in four years saving $9.7 trillion over ten years, shrinks the percentage of our gdp that we spend on government operations from 24% to 16%, and makes the bush tax cuts and alternative minimum tax relief permanent. sounds ...