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Charge. do you think it goes anywhere? tweet us. we will read some of your responses later in the show. still ahead celebrating palm sunday mass, the pope tosses the script and speaks from the heart. and why he's called the people's pope. and kathleen sebelius's send off, the head of the obamacare disastrous rollout may be gone, but his new pick for the job, a fair and balanced debate coming up. (dad) well, we've been thinking about it and we're just not sure.

Taxes we're raising and from whom. the basic idea is that if you live in vermont, you get health coverage. by right of citizenship. and also that the docs and the hospitals don't have to think of you as a vermonter with cigna. they think of you as a vermonter with strep throat and they give you what they think is best and some back office employee figures out how the bill is paid. another challenge we have is folding in medicare. folding in tricare and federal insurance programs that vermont doesn't regulate. we're not going to just say don't worry about that, we're going to pay the bill. we'r...

In washington and folks in the obama administration are interested in seeing if a state can pull this off. you know, we're told that they're watching closely, and the affordable care act has involved many pieces where states have been given permission and in fact money to experiment, so we're hopeful they'll continue that trend as they look at our waiver. >> so make your case then, taxpayers in vermont to people watching in washington, why does vermont need a single payer health care system and what would it look like? >> well, first of all, we have about 620,000 people in the entire state of ...

Absolutely. more because this is a very controversial appointment. not as much when you get to be director of omb. but everyone knows what the secretary of health and human services does especially with this particular law. democrats can toll 55 votes, even if a few defect. and that is unlikely. i still think she gets to 51. >> we know to move her forward it's going to be 51 votes. that's all they need. is this a chance for the gop to relitigate obamacare? will that hurt them or help them? >> well, they are going to use the hearing for that. usually i'm for hearings to only be about the issue,...

Especially to a woman. >> is there a way to discuss obamacare on the hill without it getting mean spirited despite the person sitting in front of them, that individual? >> a lot of members of congress like to utilize this as a soap opera. american people, we are tired of partisan politics. we want to know the fact. so the more we berate people and not let them answer a question when we already have the answer, it doesn't bode well for our party. >> how much will she be able to answer questions about obamacare? she hasn't been the person heading up the effort thus far. but you know those questi...