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And with empowering consumers that way, that's one way that the free market can actually influence the bottom line and force a change in this industry. >> wow. m.j., thank you so much. >> m.j. talks about electing good people. m.j., remember m.j.'s ad from the election, she ran, she's a combat veteran. are you running again? >> you know, after the election, i -- we narrowly lost in a district that had lost the last midterm by 32 points, we lost by 2.9% and i woke up the next day asking myself that question. the only answer i came up with immediately, i think it's too soon to tell, but the only...

That ceo not present there today. >> let's talk about this some more. joining us now, chief patient advocate for drug discounting platform, hipo, m.j. hager. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me on. how you doing? >> good. i'm not 100% sure we need hearings for this, because we all know exactly, in detail, what the problem is. so what do you expect following today's hearings? are these companies going to feel public pressure as a result of them. do they just know how to show up to these things and give the answers they need to give without anything happening? >> i'm glad to see th...