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A difference. we also arm the rebels. the truth is there is a small pocket of moderates. yes, they're not perfect. they're not perfect. but we work with what we have. >> it's small. >> it's true, but they're being left out. >> even if that happened and you achieved enormous success, which would be the overthrow of the regi regime. the regime of the 3,000 army as strong and let's say you retrieve them and 14% of syria that has ruled and that would be a blood bath and then the infighting among the rebels. now, we had 180,000 troops in iraq, as you well remember, dan. we couldn't stop al qaeda fr...

How are we go going to achieve these fairly ama bibitious goal. we'll do it by remote control freedom magic. >> i suppose the only way to get a laugh on such a dismal subject. >> so, a year and a half ago i suggested that we armed those groups that we knew to actually support the principles we would support. exactly the group, the syrian support group who for the first time we're transferring aid to directly 18 months later. we do know who those groups are and we could have been providing them with much more arm as for a long time. as things have escalated, i think we need to be more act aive....