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But it also gives donald trump a break, because he then gets to see the evidence as it is presented. and he also has the advantage that he will now have at least three versions of it. the grand jury version with that the witnesses gave, the trial one version, and if there's any difference between the two, he gets to exploit that at his own trial. so he gets an advantage from this. so there's a lot of strategy going on right now as to what each of them is thinking. and then, of course, the removal part is another element that has to be considered. and the removal and the explanation that they w...

I'll be severed from donald trump's trial by joining this early trial date. because donald trump is going to delay, delay, delay, divert, that is his pattern and practice. and so i'll be tried separately, and that gives me a break. but it also gives donald trump a break, because he then gets to see the evidence as it is presented. and he also has the advantage that he will now have at least three versions of it. the grand jury version with that the witnesses gave, the trial one version, and if there's any difference between the two, he gets to exploit that at his own trial. so he gets an advan...

That is his pattern and practice. and so i'll be tried separately, and that gives me a break. but it also gives donald trump a break, because he then gets to see the evidence as it is presented. and he also has the advantage that he will now have at least three versions of it. the grand jury version with that the witnesses gave, the trial one version, and if there's any difference between the two, he gets to exploit that at his own trial. so he gets an advantage from this. so there's a lot of strategy going on right now as to what each of them is thinking. and then, of course, the removal part...

Look. trump's impeachment standing. impeached removed from office 50%. 46% say no. but just on impeaching him, forgetting the removal part, 54% say yes, 41% say no. so a pretty clear majority in this fox news poll on impeaching him. there's also a cbs poll that says roughly the same thing. >> 46% say yes, 39% say no. again, a clear plurality there. if impeaches and the senate remove, much closer number there. convict to remove 42%, don't convict or don't hold a trial 42%. so on that particular question, the removal much closer. >> two notable things here. one is you point out very static. >> v...

That would be helpful for everyone. >> and abby, there is a new quinnipiac poll out today and this is a different question, asked if president trump should be impeached and removed from office. not just the inquiry but impeached and removed from office, 45% of the american people say yes and 49% say no. so there isn't this zest to get him out of office even if people do want the inquiry to begin. >> it does suggest that people do understand the removal part of this is a step further and they are not quite ready to go there yet. i wish some of the polls would ask both questions separately. so t...