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Off-message. and there's virtually no one, john kelly included, who believes that they can change that. that's a pertinesonality thing t this president. there's a lot of other focus going on about organizing the white house and restructuring it and making it work better. so that republicans and people in washington can have more confidence that decisions are being made in a rational way. but the president's instincts to go after his enemies and to focus intensely on his base is not going to change, i think. >> ron brownstein, make the case. here's fthe president's argumen, they are small, but ...

In the last ten years. >> and-- >> professor, haw how about the last year, up 4% and that's wag go stop that. >> i have to ask-- >> i don't know, what does stop corporate greed, i don't know. >> brenda: i have to ask toby because actually since this has been passed we've seen companies start to anticipate higher costs and where do they hit? >> well, first they go to the lower minimum wage people who-- you can't repeal math. they're talking about repealing this, you cannot repeal the math. the math is inarguable at this point. first off, the idea that you know, i'm going to pay a $2,000 fine fo...