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See a wholesale repeal of health care reform bass they know what health care was like. they know that an insurance company got to control whether or not they got treatment. and the american people don't like that. it is incumbent upon democrats though in order to even that number up to have aggressive campaigns that push republicans not just on what they'd repeal. we know that, but what would they do in its place. >> john, as you talk to people, especially outside of washington, are they still listening? do they want to hear the particulars robert's talking about on health care or think wow, t...

See a wholesale repeal of health care reform bass they know what health care was like. they know that an insurance company got to control whether or not they got treatment. and the american people don't like that. it is incumbent upon democrats though in order to even that number up to have aggressive campaigns that push republicans not just on what they'd repeal. we know that, but what would they do in its place. >> john, as you talk to people, especially outside of washington, are they still listening? do they want to hear the particulars robert's talking about on health care or think wow, t...

They'd repeal. we know that. what would they do in its place? >> as you talk to people, especially outside of washington, are they still listening? do they want to hear the particulars that robert's talking about on health care or thinking, wow, this is kind of a disaster? >> david, the whole repeal question is misleading. maybe people don't want it repealing but still upset with healthcare.gov and the rollout. may have friends or members of the family with problems with healthcare.gov. in nevada we have an exchange that's disaster. makes the federal one looked like a well-oiled machine and no...

2022. i don't know, richard. again, you don't think it's going to happen? >> i think the states that are the governors right now who are engaging in this kind of rhetoric will ditch it quietly and by the way, enthusiastically because they want the federal dollars. all of these states are really right up at the top of the list when it comes to getting federal money for transportation, anything. they want federal dollars and this isn't going to cost them. the other part of it is the repeal question. once we get beyond the cycle, if there is a president romney, he's going to be faced with either ...

This is quite possible this is going to happen, so specifically your answer to the repeal question, would you work to repeal it? >> well, let me say you never want to count nancy pelosi out. we saw the favor factory kick in to pass the climate change bill, the government takeover bill itself, the failed stimulus bill. but republicans did something very dramatic today, jane, that is probably going to make it a little more uncomfortable for business as usual. house republicans just a few minutes ago voted to ban all ear marks for the rest of this -- earmarks for the rest of this congress on all ...