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Of the united states because i didn't think he was saving enough money. i became the chairman of the budget committee. we balanced the budget. we did it on a bipartisan basis. this is not easy, but, you know, lead when you're there because at the end every politician has a million plaques on the wall. you know what you do with those plaques? no one cares. do something that's going to improve america, not to worry about the party and all this other stuff. health care is so important to every american and that's why they need to have it. >> governor john kasich, thanks for being with us. >> okay...

Salesman, he became president of the united states but those coal miners who want their jobs back and want wages increases, want health care, they need to jobs much like people -- >> they know if you're a coal miner you know 45,000 jobs were not created since the trump administration began. >> coming up next, more on the full obamacare repeal. it's in the works right now. if it goes through, what's it going to cost you? we'll speak with tammy baldwin. ns now at this cartoon from the repealing the earlier plans to repeal and replace in favor of just repealing then replacing later. you get the i...

2015 bill was for coverage. so we saw with the senate bill, the one they've been discussing for weeks now, the cbo said about 22 million people would lose coverage. the 2015 bill, repealing without replacing, the number was 32 million. and that does a lot to make moderates scared. you go out there and remind susan collins of maine and you remind capital of west virginia and rob portman of ohio means repealing without replacing means no money for opioid addiction coverage, and no money for medicaid expansion states. you hammer that home, or you gloat a little bit and remind republicans that it ...

Year you would seeremiums go up in the individual market, g through medicaid or through work, 20 to 25%, up 50% in year two and would nearly double within ten years. by 2026. let's look at the third screen and i'll tell you the effect it's going to have on the marketplace. 50% of all americans in year one would live in areas that had no insurer participation. we do not have a public option under obamacare. it was something discussed and didn't happen. half of all americans would live in places with no insurer participation and 75% in 2026 would live in areas with no insurance participation in ...

Stephanie, you look at that and tell me, what good comes of repealing without replacing? >> but you and i have argued this point before. as it comes to the deficit, hard core conservatives or those tied to that idealism, don't like talks of deficit. if you speak to the average person and talk deficit, you could make a mistake between the trillion or billion and it doesn't seem to matter. it feels disconnected. from your perspective, michael, the average american beyond how they voted or if they asked their lawmaker to repeal and that was a campaign promise, from a health care perspective, i'm ...