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Era it probably would be. the most notorious drug kingpin in the world and his cartel is saying basically a wall, who cares about a wall. >> that's right. >> that's stuff we didn't already know. they come through the lawful ports of entry and the wall is not a barrier at stopping nashts. that's seen in the informants we have the wire taps and the seizures where heroin and cocaine seizures are five times higher. >> what's the point of arguing for a wall? >> from a border security perspective, there is no point. if you look at what would be the most effective at what would further secure our bor...

In 17. >> the omnibus has more in 18. replacement wall in calexico going to 30 feet. new project starts in new mexico this week as well. steve: one of the things that's frustrated the president and a lot of people in the country is the fact that all have you got to do is if you cross into the country illegally, then by law or by statute or by executive decree, essentially, those who were detained were caught and released back into the interior of the country. and a lot of cases you never see them again. but the president apparently over the weekend ended catch and release via executive order. ...

Ways? >> well when something is paid for, you pay for it with money. >> i understand that. but i'm saying there are many ways to do that and collect that. >> are they paying for a wall? >> my priority is to increase border security and to build that wall, that will work. that's my priority, sir. that's what i'm -- >> that's -- then talk about that. cbp estimates building a wall will result in taking land from 900 ranchers, other landowners two texas counties, that's two counties. i'll insert that letter if i might into the record. >> without objection, so ordered. >> and what is your estimate ...

>> reporter: can you talk about the money and border security? what will the american people say without money? >> to be clear, the 1.5 was the request for 2017. 2.6 is the request for 2018 reflecting the fact that there are 12 months and 2018 and only five months in 2017. all of the above. the replacement wall, new wall, land acquisition, infrastructur infrastructure. you don't automatically build a wall in the middle of nowhere, and build a road to get there, you also have to run utility services out to it if you're going to do lighting for example. it's all of the above and part of the pres...