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David k. johnston is the founder of d.c. report.org, spent a number of years reporting taxes for "the new york times." also the author of "the making of donald trump." this is very long detailed piece which is difficult for people because it's about taxes. give me the rub. what's the main thrust of this story? >> "the times" had access to over 100,000 documents. many of them leaked from the trump family archives and interviewed people over 18 months or five years of reporting time put into this story. and they established beyond any reasonable doubt that the trump family engaged in decades of ...

Story he was given $1 million by his father. this story shows inflation adjustedz adjusted into $4 million. if you were given that much and, you had sat on it like a hen on a egg he would have been richen than he is. >> yeah, selling the trump properties in 2004 was a huge financial mistake. he came down 11 notches on their list. they say he's worth $3.1 billion. donald's own financial statement listed a net worth of $3.5 billion. and there's no evidence to support he's even worth $1 billion. >> david k. johnston is a tax expert, founder of d.c. report.org. up next president trump is calling...

Revenue streams for his then five children making donald trump a millionaire by the age of 8. and the times details how donald trump's father continued to bail out donald trump's failing business ventures to avoid defaulting on his debts. cnbc has learned that new york state tax officials are now investigating the fraud allegations made in this "the new york times" report. joining our discussion now, david k. johnston, author of the making of donald trump, and pulitzer prize winning journalist who founded d.c. report.org. david, this takes you back to your days as a new york times tax reporter...

Already now charged with crimes and so it is a lot less clear that congressman collins can get his son off the hook by taking the hit and pleading guilty the way michael flynn did. congressman collins is the big fish in this investigation. his son, cameron collins, is the little fish. so what congressman collins has to wonder is how long will it take for his son to turn against him? how long will it take for congressman collins' son to plead guilty in exchange for no prison time and testify against his father? and that is the drama that president trump will watch most closely, how long does it...

Little fish. so what congressman collins has to wonder is how long will it take for his son to turn against him? how long will it take for congressman collins' son to plead guilty in exchange for no prison time and testify against his father? and that is the drama that president trump will watch most closely, how long does it take for the son to turn against the father? joining our discussion now, david k. johnson who founded d.c. report.org. he is the author of "it is even worse than you think, what the trump administration is doing to america." and back with us, joyce vance. david, what do y...