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Talked to, could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided, and here's -- >> guided by americans? >> guided by americans, and guided by people who had polling. >> let's talk more about this. joining us once again reporter for axio. sarah fisher, good to have you back with us. amidst some of the reports that we were just referring there, i know that axis is reporting that the president's outside attorneys are looking to create an internal separation. perhaps even a firewall with jared kushner at this point. talk to us a little bit more about that. let's d...

Reporting senate runl cann could miss their self-imposed dead line repealing obamacare july 4. politico reporter for axio, chief washington correspondent for bloomberg news. jonathan, the president celebrating on may 4th the bill in the rose garden, and then behind closed doors he tells the senate -- the senators the republican bill he celebrated is mean. >> apparently he also said it was cold hearted. >> it gets better. >> this is really important. this is not a gaff. they are still talking about this on the him. it's been a horrendous week. terrible things happened this week. they are distre...