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Even on their own score sheet, she should be a hero. barack obama should be a hero to the hawks on the right wing. >> he should be, and i have to call ourselves and the rest of the media on the carpest here too, chris. we have to find ways, i don't know if mark halperin should have jumped into that interview, maybe that wasn't the time, but in print and broadcast, every time we report that barack obama apologizes for america, reporters should be required to say as a matter of fact, msnbc found he has never one apologized for america. this needs to be a reporting convention. >> there's a catch ...

Terrorism, that his his phrase, and in terms of the war on terrorism, the sheet he just ran through, the 30 some people, he has done good on fighting the war on terrorism. even on their own score sheet, she should be a hero. barack obama should be a hero to the hawks on the right wing. >> she should be, and i have to call ourselves and the rest of the media on the carpest here too, chris. we have to find ways, i don't know if mark halperin should have jumped into that interview, maybe that wasn't the time, but in print and broadcast, every time we report that barack obama apologizes for americ...