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Therefore attorney/client privilege cannot be invoked. >> right. i'm echoing jeff here a little bit, which is it doesn't strike me necessarily as a giant legal problem, it just -- this particular tidbit. it just strikes me as you read that piece and think, this is really the gang who can't shoot straight. the idea that you would have a conversation like the one that "the times" is reporting corallo will relay without a lawyer on the phone, i mean, it goes to all what we know about that june meeting. remember, it was primarily about a relatively obscure adoption law. it turns out it wasn't. >> ...

Department investigations work and he understands something about the law. so i think he will be a credible witness. the second piece is the new report's emphasis on the special counsel's focus on this june 2016 meeting. might shed some light on why in recent days we have been hearing from the president's legal team some new legal theories that they've been floating about why maybe the president can't or shouldn't or it's not appropriate for him to be interviewed by the special counsel. and that might be because that the special counsel's focussing so much on the june 2016 meeting that events ...

Donald trump jr. wrote. the e-mails, quote, will never get out. that's what the times is reporting their former trump legal team spokesman denies corallo's allegation. she said he never actually said that. the e-mails, of course, did get back out. the panel is back with us. joining us is van jones and jack kings kingston. because copies of them had already been requested and prepared to send to capitol hill. does any of that give her wiggle room? >> well, it certainly does. and in fairness to hope hicks, i mean, the fact that she says they might never get out doesn't necessarily mean that she ...