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Russia and certainly refuses to personally chastise president putin. >> shannon, were it not fear and loathing, in your view why was the reaction to this particular leak so very different? >> well, there is a perception within the white house that this was done to embarrass the president. our reporting lines up with a lot of reporting jonathan was laying out there. why would someone want to embarrass the president? well, there is a feeling that there is a very deep divide inside the white house right now between really much of the foreign policy community that wants the u.s. to take a much str...

Again. we're certainly not clear that he or his staff are the ones who leaked this, but he is the one right now the president is angry at. and this is another example, though, of this white house talking about leaks. this time more seriously. suggesting this is a fireable offense. this is a white house that has plenty of leaks. this is one of the few times we've heard suggestions someone could lose their job over it. it's obscuring the bigger issue, this is yet another example where president trump refuses to criticize russia and certainly refuses to personally chastise vladimir putin. >> shan...

In your view, why was the reaction to this particular leak so very different? >> well, there's a perception within the white house that this was done to embarrass the president. our reporting really lines up with a lot of the reporting jonathan was laying out there. and why would someone want to embarrass the president? well, there is a feeling that there is a big, deep divide inside the white house right now between really much of the foreign policy community that wants the u.s. to take a much stronger, more aggressive stance on russia, and the president and a few of his allies who you can se...