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Across the finish line. i'm glad about that. >> this is a reporting master work and i am a humble, huge fan of yours and everything you've worked on particularly at book length. what i find remarkable about this story is i feel like you do actually answer the question of why it's 17 years in afghanistan and nobody knows why we're there. essentially your answer is it's pakistan is the reason we're still there and that is something nobody has come close to solving. >> that's right. it confused us over and over again what our war was in afghanistan if the problems we most fear, alibi d-- calal qa...

At the prize and another one for his book "ghost wars". it's the prehistory of 9/11. he should have one another award for "private empire" but he was robbed. now he's written "directorats skts. it's a brutal story. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> first of all, did you know when you started writing ghost wars, that you'd write up to 9/11 and write the post history? >> absolutely not. it took me a while to decide that there was a second part that was worth doing, because the world was in such chaos after september 11th, the war in iraq and the rest, i wasn't sure how to create a secon...