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After that report, we got a very -- at that point i think unprecedented statement from the spokesman for the special counsel. not directly disputing the mcclatchy story but giving a sort of general warning to the press that there had been lots of inaccuracies out there and every journalist should be very careful about their sourcing. "many stories about our investigation have been inaccurate. be very cautious about any source that claims to have knowledge about our investigation and dig deep into what they claim before reporting on." that was last april from the special counsel's office. then ...

Inaccurate. be very cautious and dig into what they claim before reporting on." that was last april from the special counsel's office. then six months later in october after some strange reporting that somebody was maybe trying to shop false sexual harassment allegations about robert mueller to the press, the special counsel's office put out a statement saying that they had referred the matter to the fbi. finally, last month, reporter michael isikoff at yahoo! news got the special counsel's office to confirm that a key filing from the special counsel in the paul manafort case would be public. ...

Number of 1.5 million. so it really is concerning. >> one thing that i noticed that you put up there that is changing or this regulation would change is how -- these are a lot of big totacko companies that make cigarettes. how they can market to kids. that's what they went after big tobacco on in the '90s, was this marketing. they're also trying to do it this time, go aghoweving after market it. >> this is something our colleague sanjay gupta was reporting on, the idea that it doesn't cause damage. the science seems to indicate roiz, and the government is in an interesting place. they have to ...

Imagine which is what we're hearing when people describe the scene after. >> you and i were here earlier when the public safety director for the state of pennsylvania was taking to his first public comments about this and he was practically moved to tears. a long-time veteran of the kind of work he does, he's been on the scene of plane crashes and this was sthechk that has left him have shaken. that would go along with the kes description of the kind of trauma caused by these kinds of weapons. it is an extraordinary thing to be reporting on. let's talk about the hate crime aspect with you, dan...

Number one, could the bomber in his or her furthest part of their mind hope that the person they sent it to would actually open the device, most of us would say no, but again, to instill fear, that's what terrorism is. terrorism is theater. terrorism is to instill fear in all americans. with our midterms coming up, this is not the time we want to be afraid. we want everyone american to get out and cast their vote the way they believe. >> clint vanzant, thank you for that. i want to thank jim kavanaugh, tom winter, john thnathan dietz. an incredibly scary situation at cnn and others find themse...