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Turning around. yes, they have been up and down. i think the closer we get the more people will realize it's about policy. >> i talked to a couple not too long ago and the husband said that he was really open to voting for trump but once trump came out and said that it might be a rigged election, that did it for him and he's now going to vote for hillary clinton. >> well, when we look back and john kerry, al gore, going back, we have had both republicans and democrats who said there's fraud, there's issues, it's rigged, whatever. it's verbiage both sides use. i think the media is kind of forge...

But she was not totally sold on the idea of coming forward shelf herself had seen the videotape. she was shocked. she said for the first time i understood why what happened to me happened. but she read the "new york times" on wednesday night. she saw two other women who had been victimized in her view, and she's right. far more seriously than she had been shelf read the first person account of a "people" magazine reporter. and yesterday morning, i was on the phone with kristin and she said to me two words. we got a videographer to her as quickly as possible i interviewed her by phone while she...

But she read the "new york times" on wednesday night. she saw two other women who had been victimized in her view, and she's right. far more seriously than she had been shelf read the first person account of a "people" magazine reporter. and yesterday morning, i was on the phone with kristin and she said to me two words. she'd, "i'm in." we got a videographer to her as quickly as possible i interviewed her by phone while she was being interviewed and that's how we produced the story today. >> one of the things we've seen over the course of the week, as several women have come forward. the repo...

That's how we produced the story today. >> one of the things we've seen over the course of the week, as several women have come forward. the reporting process you're describing. the trump campaign and mr. trump denying each of these allegations, you as reporters are having to verify. can you shed some light on your thinking, the paper's thinking, about why it is important to find people these women spoke to at the time. why is that so key to verifying their stories? >> that way you don't think it is the power of suggestion of having seen this videotape a week ago later thinking it happened to ...

Political -- it may have been 11 years ago, but it is today. dan rather, president now of news and guts media, thank you for talking through this with me. i know it take trust to talk about this issue. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. we should note that cbs news has maintained all the along they stand by the results of their independent review into that report back in 2004, which found flaws in the reporting process. i should tell that you in terms of their response to this movie tonight. but there's a reason there's but there's a reason there's -- did i cbs is refusing...