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Imperialist state. they would pass things around in note form. it would take on a life and mythology on its own. so it is a dig with russia but it's really evoke active phrase. >> the way things are passed around among the aides at the white house, there is an open whisper campaign. you never know what's on the record and off the record because everyone is whispering. >> the truth is being told but under the subrosa. >> he could have said a lot of things. but using that term, a.b., seems like an intentional thing by wolff. do you have problems with the reporting technique? >> again, i'm not st...

It's a basic reporting technique in journalism and it is a basic law enforcement technique that you talk to the most important person at the very end, after you've got as much other information from everybody else as possible. then you go to the principal, your most important figure in your story or in your investigation and you ask him or her to tell their version of events. will it happen? you know, i think it's certainly sounds like the president wants to. he's the president. so we should take him at his word about what he wants to do, but he's also got a very good lawyer, and that lawyer i...

Have intelling -- you believe in integrity of the media and you ask top editors to come to this off the record spin session. it's not unlike how he describes learning about what he calls the magnitude of the whole situation. he was sitting at his breakfast table two weeks ago reading about this in the "the washington post" when the "the washington post" broke the rosen story and then he suddenly feels this sense of remorse and seems to understand the magnitude of this search warrant that he signed off on. now, let's step back, this is a search warrant that not only described james rosen as a c...