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The cooperator should not be sharing information. this is what is unusual, not the way manafort is being treated by the government. being in jail pretrial,in sorry post trial, post conviction, there's nothing unusual about that. giuliani knows that as a former prosecutor. what's unusual is a cooperator who supposedly is trying to assist the government in a truthful way. if the president was doing it in exchange for promise of a pardon or even the temptation of a pardon, that could be illegal. if he was trying to influence what manafort was saying, if manafort was feeding information to trump t...

Reporter: giuliani is using those other tapes to push back on the allegation or in various reports the allegation that cohen is perhaps going to tell special counsel mueller that president trump knew about the 2016 meeting in trump tower with officials. trump has denied. giuliani said if that were the case, something would be in the case. in his view, cohen seems to have recorded everything, jon? jon: michael cohen is an attorney, he also has an attorney. what's that attorney saying about all this? reporter: he says that giuliani is confused. in a statement, lanny davis, cohen's attorney focus...

Eliminate isis, maybe you put that off a little bit. and you get rid of isis first. and then you go back to that. because isis short-term i believe is our greatest danger. the "new york times" reports giuliani and senator jeff sessions are also being considered for department of homeland security and sessions and asa hutchinson, current governor of arkansas, both being considered for attorney general. but hutchison told a local affiliate no. gloom berg reports steve m s sn is contending for secretary. politico reports that the president-elect and vice president-elect will meet later today to...

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