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Man. we don't have all of what he said and we don't have all of the defense side. there are significant clues. we need to get all of the facts together. >> when press bed by the judge the hearing to explain why manafort's ties mattered, the "times" reports weisman hinted about the investigation. this goes to the larger view of what we think is going on and what is the motive here. this goes very much to the heart of what the special counsel's office is investigating. the "times" adds weisman did not elaborate. what do you take from the comments? is it clear the special counsel is trying to dra...

His ties to russia and ukraine? >> according to mr. weisman, it is key to their investigation. it goes to the heart of what their jurisdiction is. it is looking at whether russians interfered in our 2016 election, and whether any americans were involved in helping them do that. they are alleging the lies mr. manafort told which ended the plea deal relate to the key element. they say the conversations are about what happens with ukraine, and kilimnik and manafort were plotting how to bring peace, which is what the russians wanted. they were doing the russian bidding. several things need to happ...