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Massive effort by the republican party, more than 400 bills nationwide trying to suppress the vote of americans. and i think representative clyburn is right on, and i think what senator manchin is missing is there is some naivete, if i may say, on what has happened in other countries. having come from latin america, i recognize the parliamentary tricks that the republicans are using to suppress the vote. we are in a point in our democracy that if we don't pass legislation that protects the freedom and the right for every american vote, we will lose our democracy. we are in more danger now than...

Voting rights and constitutional rights the same thing you've done for the budget. we have asked respectfully that you allow the same kind of reconciliation of constitution rights that you allow on budgetary issues. that's all. >> tim, that argument has not worked on any republicans in the senate. it's not worked on kyrsten sinema and joe manchin so far. what do you think of it? >> first, simone, welcome to the other side. the water is warm. i've made the transition. it's not too bad o here. far be it for me to push back on representative clyburn. i think on the merits of his argument, he's co...

Democratic representative in new york, the house judiciary committee man, congressman jones. i had a great conversation yesterday morning with your colleague, representative clyburn, who has been saying that on a federal level the thing you have to do is bust through the filibuster for things that are as important as voting rights. you have chuck schumer in the state who said by january 17, martin luther king day this year, there will be a vote in the senate to get this done. how do you see this unfolding? >> it's great to be with you. this is of existential importance. as someone who is very ...

Atmosphere when we pretend the only way you can demonstrate qualifications is to go to certain schools. well, i don't think that's right. >> melissa, he's advocating for a south carolina federal judge. do you think that's dispositive with this white house? >> i don't know if it's dispositive. i would like to push back on representative clyburn's view that own lee the quality of one's school projects a diversity at the court. in fact, all three of these perspective nominees have very diverse work experiences. judge jackson was a public defender before becoming a judge. justice kruger would be t...

I think that there are certainly sommer its to some of sinema's points, but not wanting to give mitch mcconnell a filibuster to congress. there are merits to clyburn's points about the same points with the budget. but that argument hasn't convinced manchin or sinema. how can we put pressure on republicans by breaking these bills down and putting up the popular parts and making them vote for them. i would like more creative thinking than just hoping that yelling at senator sinema more is going to change the result. >> simone, you've been on the inside here. tell me about that, because on one ha...