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I yield back. >> chairman recognizes representative sewell. >> i yield a few minutes to my esteemed chairman. >> thank you. ambassador taylor, i don't know if you'd had a chance to read transcripts released. are you aware that other witnesses have testified that ukraine in fact found out the aid was being withheld before it became public knowledge? >> mr. chairman, i have read that. i think there's still some question about when they may have heard. and ultimately they did find out. >> when the political story came out, to your knowledge, but others have said even sooner, but they did find out...

>> represent sewell. >> so mr. kent i'd like to refer you to the discussion of may 23rd meeting in the oval office. when the president met with those who had gone to the ukraine for the inauguration. you briefly testified that you helped propose nameses for individuals to go to that inauguration. was ambassador sondland who was ambassador to the european union one of the names you submitted? >> no, it was not. >> but he ultimately attended that inauguration. is that not right? >> that is correct. >> do you know how he ended up as a part of that official delegation? >> i do not know for sure bu...

Berlusconi because he believes they are people who are more open to negotiation, easier to deal with. >> at this point let me yield to representative sewell. >> i would like to continue my questioning, the line of questioning on michael flynn. i'm sure you can understand my concern that mr. flynn not only failed to disclose the contacts with the russian ambassador, but he said he did not remember whether he discussed sanctions against russia with that ambassador. i find that really hard to believe. wouldn't you think that at the height of our concern about russian hacking that mr. flynn would ...

Likewise, i'm not going to comment on an ongoing investigation's conclusions. >> but you're not going to disagree with general clapper. you're just not going to comment. the reason i point it out, when you can't comment on something, or there's an inference out there that because a person's name is brought up because he may have worked for somebody at a certain time, that there's a guilt implied in that. i'm not in any way being critical of either of you. these are the situations that can be damaging to the country and does advance the russian interest of trying to destabilize democracy and ca...

Because he believes they are people more open to negotiation, easier to deal with. >> i'll yield to representative sewell. >> i'd like to continue my line of questioning on michael flynn. i'm sure you can understand my concern that mr. flynn not only failed to disclose the contacts with the russian ambassador but he said he did not remember whether he discussed sanctions with russia with that ambassa r ambassador. i find that really hard to believe. wouldn't you think that at the height of our concern about russian hacking that mr. flynn would have remembered meeting with the russian ambassado...