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And we wanted to get access to that. we thought it was important for the american public to know about that. and so we were certainly willing to expend all the resources necessary, reptorial resources and editing and legal resources to obtain that information. >> when you look back at the past 12 months, what other investigations have moved the needle? >> we spent a lot of time looking at the opioid crisis this past year. we also went to court for that to obtain data that would show how wholesalers distributed opioids across the country and areas of the country that received a disproportionate...

Investigative stories. most recently the afghanistan papers. this was a project years in the making by the post. i wonder how you've made room and time in the budget to pay for this investigative reporting. >> we think it's central to our mission to do investigations, to hold government to account, to hold all powerful individuals and powerful institutions to account. that's why we have a free press in this country. that's why james madison in crafting the first amendment talked about freely examining public characters and measures. that's the whole idea behind having an independent press. so ...

Cal oal outlets. what i loved about marty baron's interview is he talked about how expensive it is to do good stories. i'd like to talk about the other media, local news. and to local news, i wish i could give the gift of more jobs. more resources. more money. and more attention to do the good work that we need and rely on them for. >> yeah. more attention. garry, your gift for the media? >> a supply of strong coffee. stay awake and be vigilant. >> katherine? >> a vacation. a real vacation. that means in the next week you know, there's no major breaking news. no incendiary trump tweets at 4:00...