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York city. joe and mika are off this week. i'm joined by former governor ed rendell, reverend al sharpton. also ezra klein and matt lewis with us in washington. now joining the table the "new york times" columnist gail collins also the author of the upcoming book "william henry harrison." merry christmas. >> been waiting for that. >> we've been waiting for the book on harrison. when is the book out? >> about a week or two. >> we'll have you back to talk about that. i want to talk about your column today. we were just discussing, i was off last week and watching from afar. it was heralded as th...

Can't get the corporate money out of politics in the way you want because you don't have a constitutional amendment yet you can enhance the power of small donors. use matching to make a donation under $250 from an ordinary, average american citizen or four times that much in which case it'll be worth it and possible for a congressman to raise his money among his constituents, among small donors instead of having to go to all the lobbyists if they so chose. but i think it's fair to say it is a bit of a depressing issue. i would make one recommendation. a law professor at harvard just brought ou...

Help us with the debate on the language of the amendment. that will go all fall. do not worry about that. we have also asked him, and i hope he will be able to stay for a thursday night fight tonight on twitter, where we'll be able to take some questions about this language. if you're a root striker, the get money out crowd, it is an absolute pleasure. i agree wefith everything you said. again, the book, "republic lost," congratulations on its publication, and thank you so much for joining this conversation with us. our next guest is a man you may not have heard much from recently, but former ...

About this with everybody at america, getting the word out that we want to get money out. and this fall is time for an honest, transparent, true debate about the language of this petition's amendment for draft. and our first guest wants to help us. he has suggestions and he has the authority to do it. renowned constitutional scholar and harvard law professor, lawrence lessick. by the way, he is also the author of the newly publishedç book that i will hawk and sell and tell you to read any way that i possibly can, because i could not think of an issue that is more important than what he offer...

Problems for our children. and did he take up the fight? he did >> and is that ultimately why you think we're seeing such a surge, not just with occupy wall street, not just with the frustration that is around the globe, not just with the petition that we launched with this, not with the popularity that i'm sure your book "republic lost" will ride. not because you want to sell books, but because you are offering information that will help us make better decisions. is it that, is it the unresolved frustration of these things that we're now seeing play out before us? >> yeah. we're finally recog...