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Positions for him. he's a pragmatist. with the president sort of the personal relationship is everything. if he wants to have some influence on these key issues he cares about, like immigration, health care and tax reform, if he has a positive relationship with the president. he talks about how great the president is at golf that's a small sacrifice, if he can get something done on the policy front. >> the evolution that donald trump has gone through. it's been stark and fast. this is the guy of i alone can fix it. this is the same guy that outloud two weeks ago was admiring the democrats unit...

In this case i think he's being a pragmatist. he understands what rand paul also understands which is sort of the president the personal relationship is everything. and if he wants to have some influence and he may yet get burned, but so some of these key issues he chairs about, that if he has a positive relationship with the president. if he dpz out and talk about how great the president is at golf i think there's a small sacrifice if eng get something down done on the policy front. >> this evolution the president has gone through has been stark and vafast. this is a guy who two weeks ago was...

>> dana: my instinct is that that's probably true. what do you think? >> i think that's probably true as well. he better hope so. at this point president trump attacked somewhere from six to eight republican senators personally after lisa murkowski, rand paul, bob corker, jeff flake, mitch mcconnell, ted cruz, marco rubio. half the senate has been on trump's hit list. i think that there is more policy unity than there's unity about president trump. again, all he needs is for three republicans to peel off and he loses the majority for anything. >> dana: you wrote a column, does character still ...

Knocking out state deductions. >> dana: right. lot of them in the northeast are also in california. you've got a lot of members of congress saying i don't think we can do that, but they have to pay for it some way. president trump said they're much more united as a party than the democrats. >> not at all. no. we have a very good relationship. honestly, when you look at -- when you take a look at what's happened with hillary clinton and bernie sanders and the hatred and the division and the animosity, i'll tell you what. honestly, the republicans are very, very, well united. >> dana: republican...

And then you have these other people who aren't quite ready to come forward. >> were you surprised the president who has an aversion to stick to talking points. talking about unity. >> i think there's a point he is trying to make, or maybe it's not necessarily he's trying to make it, but i think there's a level of unity out there, when it comes to policy on a lot of issues. these guys are still republicans. guys and a few gals are all republicans. they still agree. there is disagreement on things like immigration, there was disagreement over health care, that bill could have been handled much ...