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And their markets are plunging given the situation here and some of their washington, d.c.-based lobbyists have quit on them. this is going to be a reputational problem for them and we don't know the full extent of what happened. certainly they are pleased they have the president on their side. the big object of this visit by mike pompeo is for them to keep the united states in the full. the white house in the fold. it's unclear how long it can hold. >> see if steve mnuchin goes to the conference in saudi arabia in the coming days. >> he says he will. >> we will see what happens. thank you ver...

Nonsense. and ron fornier is the senior political analyst for the national journal. good to see you, you're somebody who has been defending the concept of this law and health insurance, reportedly it was going to be for 31 million americans, now we're told we'll have 31 million americans without insurance despite the law. in any event you're talking about how it has just now come down to credibility. how do you mean? >> i know inside the white house, they know they really messed up early on and they're having a hard time with the numbers as ed talked about early on. they realize they have a ...

Fees and profits than they are with advancing the cause. >> let's get right to our panel now. karen finney is the former dnc communications director and josh is a columnist for bloomberg view. good day to both of you. karen, karl rove appeared to take greater exception to being described as a member of the politburo than he did to being photo shopped as a nazi, but if both sides are linking you to a brutal regime, doesn't that suggest you may have a genuine reputational problem at this point? >> yeah, that tells you that you've definitely upset far too many people. i mean, look, rove was talki...

trillion in cuts over ten years, raises the debt ceiling about about the same amount, sets up a bipartisan committee to find other ways to trim another trillion and change from the deficit. think of it as a deficit posse. it calls for both chamber of commerce eventually to pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. they don't actually have to pass it, they just have to vote on it. and the president and house speaker admit that the plan is not perfect, but hey, there's a deadline tomorrow. here's what the president said, then you'll hear from a freshman republican who, by t...

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