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Have cooperated and glad to think about the compliance but of those members who have chosen not to, it's notable that those three congressmen, i'm talking about perry and jordan and mccarthy, they haven't given you a privileged base reason as to why, just talking the closest you can get is this request rye separates core constitutional principles. what do you make of that excuse? is it pretextual and fishing and hope you run out the clock? >> it's just political. when you think of the cast of characters that we're talking to here, you know, these are folks who are going to do the president -- ...

Decisions we want to make. if our colleagues choose not to participate, that's something that we'll have to weigh and consider moving forward. but i will just say broadly, look, for every kevin mccarthy or scott perry or these individuals who aren't talking to us, there are dozens of individuals who are. we've had almost 400 interviews so far. we continue to piece this puzzle together and to make significant investigative progress. >> that's really good to hear and reassuring because the american public does deserve transparency and members of congress should obviously endeavor to provide that...