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Kind of people who are going to say, oh, okay, good point. we do need to come back into the treaty, i'm not sure that's going to work. >> but the world without treaties, even with nasty regimes in governments is a scary place. we saw that. you don't have to look back too far and you see a lot of examples today. what's the path forward, then? is it negotiating a new one, trying to sit down at the table with not just russia but china to address these missiles? >> i think the china piece, although it might not be directly technically linked in terms of weapons that might -- that we might be able ...

There's no question russia's violating. and if we're going to get out of it, i hope we at least are in a place research and development wise where we too have developed some mechanisms. otherwise, they're going to move ahead of us quickly. there are those in the defense world that feel like because china is not a part of this that they're developing systems that are going to move beyond where we are. so i understand there's some tensions here. >> let's discuss with steve hall, cnn national security analyst, longtime cia chief of russia operations. thanks for taking the time there. so you know ...

Jared kushner. of course, adviser to the president and the president's son-in-law. this at a cnn event moments ago. >> we're more in the fact-finding phase, and we're obviously getting as many fact as we can from the different places. and then we'll determine which facts are credible and then after that, the president and the secretary of state will make a determination as to what we deem to be credible and what actions we think we should take. i'll also say that we have to be able to work with our allies. and saudi arabia has been, i think, a very strong ally in terms of pushing back against ...

Khashoggi left the consulate unharmed. the apparent double and his companion take a taxi to a mosque. it's one of istanbul's main tourist attractions and an easy place to get lost in a crowd. the men head to the bathroom. the accomplice carries a plastic bag. when they emerge, he is wearing his own clothes again. and just like that, jamal khashoggi has disappeared forever. or so the saudis would have had the world believe. little did they know, turkish authorities would quickly uncover the cover-up. from their next stop at a nearby restaurant, where al madini appears to have dumped his fake be...

Again, all these years later are making u.s. allies in europe very nervous, and fears of an arms race in europe. who else is not covered by the treaty? china is not covered. in those 30 years. china has become a lot more powerful economically and militarily. and u.s. officials including officials of the obama administration before them, believe that this puts the u.s. at a disadvantage because china doesn't face any constraints. they can develop intermediate range nuclear missiles in the pacific and does not allow the u.s. to develop new weapons to catch up. so that's where we are now. lawmake...