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Clinton when she was secretary of state to get a better deal with russia, to get the united states on a better page with russia. the best pushback to that is, you believe, at this point? >> well, i think -- i mean, to understand sort of how illogical trump's position, you have to listen to what mike said, which is, when i was in the white house and we attempted a reset with russia, we were criticized by being naive, criticized by republicans, i'm sure by some of mike's friends. and in defending trumpi ietrump here, defends trump's vision by saying he's trying a reset. there's been a great body...

Also matthew ridgean ski and bob baer. let me go to you, matthew. one of the problems now, you've had this terrible atrocity in boston. will the russian authorities be that keen to try and establish this could all have been predicated by activity in dagestan? >> i think the last thing the russian authorities are likely to do at this point is to reveal whether it's true or whether it's simply speculation that something could have been done on their part to stop the attack. i think it's much wiser from the russian perspective now to simply look forward and say, look, we'll help you unravel and i...

Dagestan? >> i think the last thing the russian authorities are likely to do at this point is to reveal whether it's true or whether it's simply speculation that something could have been done on their part to stop the attack. i think it's much wiser from the russian perspective now to simply look forward and say, look, we'll help you unravel and investigate what actually happened. if that means they've got to conceal opportunities they had they indeed missed or they intentionally suppressed, i think they're going to do that. but looking forward, i do think it's in the russian interests, as we...