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I covered chat rooms and this is where a lot of the hatred, ideology is spread through those chat rooms and people logging onto the game and talking to people across the world and sort of building a strategic plan if you like to travel to syria. that's one of the ways. we know that isis is hugely prolific in using social media and twitter and facebook and we've just got to jump onboard in terms of intelligence in the way we address this. >> hearing from one main news organization, this hostage taker has been arrested before for extremist activity. they know who he is and what it's about. >> yo...

I think installations want up the ability to island systems in case of an attack they're not completely down. >> the sort of resilience question gets to the work you're doing in places without electricity, right? i said this earlier on the show. it's a remarkable thing how much you take electricity for granted and then it when it goes away everything about your life is entirely dependent on it. i guess my question is if you put a solar panel in a village without electricity, what happens if six months from now it breaks or there's a problem with it? it seems like this could be a recipe for thi...