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That is meaningful in elections. so far they haven't been able to demonstrate that. free college may fall by the wayside if that continues to be a problem for democrats in elections. jillian: let's talk about bernie sanders right now because his new book is hitting shelves and it's called where we go from here, two years in the resistance. what do you think about this resistance platform in 2020? is that going to work? >> the resistance platform isn't much of a platform, right? democrats have tried to make a lot out of being the anti-trump versus giving americans a positive vision for the futu...

Ron is from where republicans had a 16-seat majority and democrats came back and won an even race there just using donald trump. so i know my team, and they're going to use this. and they probably won't go as far as impeachment, but they will use the residence movement to try to win a lot of elections next year. >> let me let you weigh in on that because it seems to me the democrats haven't fared so well on this resistance platform. >> well, actually, i tend to agree with chuck in races that are even, it's been really tough. and i do think the democrats are using this tenant trump sentiment to...

Actually stand for something rather than just oppose donald trump. are people going to see those as a sincere effort to try to get to a message out there. >> that remains to be determined. we have to see democratic candidates translate this and turn it into action on the campaign trail. a debate among democrats the extent to which they continue to campaign on the #resistance platform. and the extent to which they want to stand for something, a bit more substantive and positive like this. i also think having an economic agenda reflects their regrets about the 2016 campaign. we heard a lot about...